Discussion:
EC Consulation - audiovisual works
Matthias Kirschner
2011-07-19 13:27:39 UTC
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We have been informed about this consulation:
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/consultations/2011/audiovisual_en.htm

Green Paper on the online distribution of audiovisual works in the
European Union: opportunities and challenges towards a digital single
market

Does someone have time to check if there are some nasty things like DRM
involved, and report it back, so we can react?

Thanks,
Matthias
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Nicola Bignami
2011-07-20 18:11:43 UTC
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Post by Matthias Kirschner
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/consultations/2011/audiovisual_en.htm
Green Paper on the online distribution of audiovisual works in the
European Union: opportunities and challenges towards a digital single
market
Does someone have time to check if there are some nasty things like DRM
involved, and report it back, so we can react?
It seems to be a consultation aimed to unify the audio/video market
across Europe.
Altough compulsory DRM systems are apparently not imposed, the document
considers only the non-free contents and mainly focuses on things like
the defense of the copyright and of the intellectual property. Seems
that the only purpose of this consultation is to find a common way to
remunerate and tutelate the copyright holders across every nation of
Europe and to define what rights they can negate to the final users.
Post by Matthias Kirschner
Thanks,
Matthias
Matthias Kirschner
2011-07-21 08:29:25 UTC
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Hi Nicola,

(When Karsten is back from vacation he can decide how we want to move
forward here, but it already helps if we gather some more information.)
Post by Nicola Bignami
Altough compulsory DRM systems are apparently not imposed, the
document considers only the non-free contents and mainly focuses on
things like the defense of the copyright and of the intellectual
property.
What beside copyright is involved? Does it also cover patents,
trademarks or other monopoly rights?
Post by Nicola Bignami
Seems that the only purpose of this consultation is to
find a common way to remunerate and tutelate the copyright holders
across every nation of Europe and to define what rights they can
negate to the final users.
So in the document there is no mentioning of software or anything about
restricting computer users?

Thanks,
Matthias
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Nicola Bignami
2011-07-21 18:47:33 UTC
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Post by Matthias Kirschner
Hi Nicola,
(When Karsten is back from vacation he can decide how we want to move
forward here, but it already helps if we gather some more information.)
Post by Nicola Bignami
Altough compulsory DRM systems are apparently not imposed, the
document considers only the non-free contents and mainly focuses on
things like the defense of the copyright and of the intellectual
property.
What beside copyright is involved? Does it also cover patents,
trademarks or other monopoly rights?
It doesn't mention patents and trademarks at all.
It talks about the role of collecting societies in the remunerating
process for the copyright holders. It asks if is necessary to have a
mandatory intermediary to protect the holders' interests.
Post by Matthias Kirschner
Post by Nicola Bignami
Seems that the only purpose of this consultation is to
find a common way to remunerate and tutelate the copyright holders
across every nation of Europe and to define what rights they can
negate to the final users.
So in the document there is no mentioning of software or anything about
restricting computer users?
Nope.
Nothing about software or computer is specifically mentioned.
However it talks about license management and defense from the copyright
infringement. It talks also about restrictions, but in more generic terms.
Post by Matthias Kirschner
Thanks,
Matthias
Hugo Roy
2011-07-21 19:24:33 UTC
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Post by Nicola Bignami
Nothing about software or computer is specifically mentioned.
Am I wrong or the consultation is about "online distribution"? How could
they NOT mention software or computer? They don't even mention the
Internet?

Thanks for your help Nicola!
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Nicola Bignami
2011-07-21 19:36:34 UTC
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Post by Hugo Roy
Post by Nicola Bignami
Nothing about software or computer is specifically mentioned.
Am I wrong or the consultation is about "online distribution"? How could
they NOT mention software or computer? They don't even mention the
Internet?
I think that this consultation regards all kinds of contents
distribution (Internet, satellite, tv, physical supports and so on), so
they remain as generic as possible.
They, for example, mention the restrictions on geographical basis citing
the restrictions taken by many satellite broadcasters.
Post by Hugo Roy
Thanks for your help Nicola!
simo
2011-07-21 21:08:57 UTC
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Post by Nicola Bignami
Post by Hugo Roy
Post by Nicola Bignami
Nothing about software or computer is specifically mentioned.
Am I wrong or the consultation is about "online distribution"? How could
they NOT mention software or computer? They don't even mention the
Internet?
I think that this consultation regards all kinds of contents
distribution (Internet, satellite, tv, physical supports and so on), so
they remain as generic as possible.
They, for example, mention the restrictions on geographical basis citing
the restrictions taken by many satellite broadcasters.
Post by Hugo Roy
Thanks for your help Nicola!
More broadly this consultation is about what to do at the EU level with
regard to clearing rights in all markets.

The current situation is very fragmented as each state has its own
collecting agency and very often rights are not cleared for smaller
states (therefore content is not transmitted there) because they are
small markets and the hassle is greater than the benefit.

This consultation is about what to do to make it simpler to clear rights
for multiple states to broaden service access. The paper explicitly says
many EU citizens expect to be able to access the same content everywhere
in EU while currently that is not happening.

It ask questions about whether there should be a central agency that can
simplify clearing rights in multiple EU areas at the same time.

They do mention the internet but only as one of the mediums used to
distribute content, they are equally interested in cable, satellite,
DTT, and any other mean used to transmit content.

Simo.
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