Discussion:
The source code of the music
Massimo Barbieri
2014-06-08 14:39:44 UTC
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Hi!
A few months ago I started with a friend of mine a musical project
that has particular similarities to the philosophy of free software. I
would like to tell you about it in this post and I'd love to read your
feedback.

With our band John Option[1] we published our first single My monkey
some week ago. Of course the song is published under the terms of the
Creative Commons License (CC-BY-SA) and it's completely produced only
with free software: Ardour, Hydrogen, Jack, Qsynth, CALF, and many
other great free audio software that we used under a GNU/Linux system.

But with the project of John Option we have done a little more in the
direction of freedom. As for the free software the source code is
accessible for the users, we decided to do the same thing for our
music. So we published the single recording tracks of the song My
monkey and the complete Ardour session. All this material is published
in our official website[1] under the CC-BY-SA license so that anyone
can use our tracks to produce a remix of our song or even a new song
that have to be published under the same license.

I hope that you like our choice of freedom. If you feel like I'd love
to read your feedback, because the encouragement of the people who
listen to us and appreciate the philosophy of our project is a fuel
for us to continue.

Ciao,
Max-B

[1] Official site: http://johnoption.org
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Tobias Platen
2014-06-08 19:10:15 UTC
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Hi! A few months ago I started with a friend of mine a musical
project that has particular similarities to the philosophy of free
software. I would like to tell you about it in this post and I'd
love to read your feedback.
With our band John Option[1] we published our first single My
monkey some week ago. Of course the song is published under the
terms of the Creative Commons License (CC-BY-SA) and it's
completely produced only with free software: Ardour, Hydrogen,
Jack, Qsynth, CALF, and many other great free audio software that
we used under a GNU/Linux system.
But with the project of John Option we have done a little more in
the direction of freedom. As for the free software the source code
is accessible for the users, we decided to do the same thing for
our music. So we published the single recording tracks of the song
My monkey and the complete Ardour session. All this material is
published in our official website[1] under the CC-BY-SA license so
that anyone can use our tracks to produce a remix of our song or
even a new song that have to be published under the same license.
I hope that you like our choice of freedom. If you feel like I'd
love to read your feedback, because the encouragement of the people
who listen to us and appreciate the philosophy of our project is a
fuel for us to continue.
Ciao, Max-B
[1] Official site: http://johnoption.org
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Hello Massimo,
Some years ago I discovered a VOCALOID[1] which is nonfree software,
and I started writing a free as in freedom replacement. Then there is
UTAU[2] which is nonfree, but I found out that someone else in Japan
had written a free software replacement that I had to port to GNU/Linux.

I also compose my own songs using LMMS, Rosegarden, MMA+Linuxband and
eCantorix[3] to create singing in a non-Japanese language. I also do
workshops at Anime conventions where I introduce people how to use the
free programs. I also work on my first con-album which I will sell
physically (as a burned CD) at those anime conventions when the work
is finished. Free does not have to be gratis.

For LMMS there is a sharing platform where you can upload your songs
in source code format. But I had no time to use that platform yet. In
the case of my free software virtual singer, I use my private instance
of GNU Mediagoblin the publish both the ogg file and the source code.
I release the source code of my music under the GPL and/or CC-BY-SA
license. However I do not know if the copyleft of the GPL can be
applied to music.



Tobias

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocaloid
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utau
[3] https://github.com/divVerent/ecantorix
Massimo Barbieri
2014-06-09 13:09:57 UTC
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Post by Tobias Platen
Hello Massimo,
Hi Tobias!
Post by Tobias Platen
Some years ago I discovered a VOCALOID[1] which is nonfree software,
and I started writing a free as in freedom replacement.
Thanks for developing free software!
Post by Tobias Platen
I also compose my own songs using LMMS, Rosegarden, MMA+Linuxband and
eCantorix[3] to create singing in a non-Japanese language. I also do
workshops at Anime conventions where I introduce people how to use the
That's cool! Because we have published also the Ardour session of our
song some people wrote me that they found it useful in order to
understand how to use Ardour and how to apply plugins to the single tracks.
Post by Tobias Platen
I release the source code of my music under the GPL and/or CC-BY-SA
license. However I do not know if the copyleft of the GPL can be
applied to music.
I think that the CC-BY-SA is the license that is closer to the
principles of the GPL.

Ciao,
Massimo
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Allan Irving
2014-06-09 13:56:07 UTC
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Hi,

Not personally a music producer or that knowledgeable in relation to music
formats, but I haven't heard much noise regarding open source formats for
it. Sounds like an interesting and worthwhile project.

Good luck!


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Post by Massimo Barbieri
Post by Tobias Platen
Hello Massimo,
Hi Tobias!
Post by Tobias Platen
Some years ago I discovered a VOCALOID[1] which is nonfree software,
and I started writing a free as in freedom replacement.
Thanks for developing free software!
Post by Tobias Platen
I also compose my own songs using LMMS, Rosegarden, MMA+Linuxband and
eCantorix[3] to create singing in a non-Japanese language. I also do
workshops at Anime conventions where I introduce people how to use the
That's cool! Because we have published also the Ardour session of our
song some people wrote me that they found it useful in order to
understand how to use Ardour and how to apply plugins to the single tracks.
Post by Tobias Platen
I release the source code of my music under the GPL and/or CC-BY-SA
license. However I do not know if the copyleft of the GPL can be
applied to music.
I think that the CC-BY-SA is the license that is closer to the
principles of the GPL.
Ciao,
Massimo
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Tobias Platen
2014-06-09 17:14:52 UTC
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Post by Massimo Barbieri
Post by Tobias Platen
Hello Massimo,
Hi Tobias!
Post by Tobias Platen
Some years ago I discovered a VOCALOID[1] which is nonfree
software, and I started writing a free as in freedom
replacement.
Thanks for developing free software!
Post by Tobias Platen
I also compose my own songs using LMMS, Rosegarden, MMA+Linuxband
and eCantorix[3] to create singing in a non-Japanese language. I
also do workshops at Anime conventions where I introduce people
how to use the
That's cool! Because we have published also the Ardour session of
our song some people wrote me that they found it useful in order
to understand how to use Ardour and how to apply plugins to the
single tracks.
Post by Tobias Platen
I release the source code of my music under the GPL and/or
CC-BY-SA license. However I do not know if the copyleft of the
GPL can be applied to music.
I think that the CC-BY-SA is the license that is closer to the
principles of the GPL.
Ciao, Massimo
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Hello

The GPL requires you to release the source code, but the CC licences
do not afaik. I also found out that the wesnoth sountrack is released
under the GPL, so it is possible to use the GPL for music. For sheet
music one could use the GFDL which is designed for written works.
Selling GFDL'ed sheet music without offering the corresponding
lilypond source code might not be permitted.

I also tried to download the music from soundcloud, but soundcloud
uses nonfree javascript, so I had to use a shell script which does the
download.

Tobias
Massimo Barbieri
2014-06-09 18:44:03 UTC
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Hi!
Post by Tobias Platen
The GPL requires you to release the source code, but the CC
licences do not afaik. I also found out that the wesnoth sountrack
is released under the GPL, so it is possible to use the GPL for
music. For sheet music one could use the GFDL which is designed for
written works. Selling GFDL'ed sheet music without offering the
corresponding lilypond source code might not be permitted.
Requiring the usere to release the source code of derivative works
could be an important key point. I will try to collect more
information about the use of a GPL like license to my music.
Post by Tobias Platen
I also tried to download the music from soundcloud, but soundcloud
uses nonfree javascript, so I had to use a shell script which does
the download.
Thanks for telling me, we will move our tracks to another server very
soon.

Ciao,
Max-B

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Peter B.
2014-06-09 20:58:34 UTC
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Post by Massimo Barbieri
Because we have published also the Ardour session of our
song some people wrote me that they found it useful in order to
understand how to use Ardour and how to apply plugins to the single tracks.
Really cool thing that you've published your ardour sessions!
btw: Have you found a way to share your LADSPA/LV2 presets, so they can
easily be re-used on different setups?


Regards,
Peter B.

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