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Missing 15 signatures for PDFreaders
Matthias Kirschner
2012-01-16 17:59:15 UTC
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Hi there,

we are just missing 15 signatures for our PDFreaders petition, than we
have 2000 individual signatures:
http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/petition.en.html

Can you distribute this a bit, so we are able to fill this gap.

Regards,
Matthias
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Matthias Kirschner
2012-01-16 18:54:15 UTC
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I've spread the word, hopefully it helps. I do seem to have a lot of
"friends" out there on the microblogs :)
So let's see if your "friends" follow you on your decision to sign ;)
Matthias
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Stefano Spinucci
2012-01-16 19:44:25 UTC
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Post by Matthias Kirschner
Hi there,
we are just missing 15 signatures for our PDFreaders petition, than we
http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/petition.en.html
Can you distribute this a bit, so we are able to fill this gap.
Regards,
Matthias
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Hi,
I voted for the petition, and then I went to the Pdfreaders.org page.

Looking around, after having found links to *read* a PDF, I tought there
were somewhere a link to free software to *create* a PDF (e.g. Pdfcreator),
but there were no mention to the creation phase.

Then I ask if could be a good idea to put some links to PDF creation, maybe
creating a dedicated page linked between "graphics" and "about".


Just my 2 (euro) cents



Stefano Spinucci
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Heiki &quot;Repentinus&quot; Ojasild
2012-01-16 20:07:17 UTC
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Dear Stefano,

Thanks.
Post by Stefano Spinucci
Looking around, after having found links to *read* a PDF, I tought there
were somewhere a link to free software to *create* a PDF (e.g. Pdfcreator),
but there were no mention to the creation phase.
Then I ask if could be a good idea to put some links to PDF creation, maybe
creating a dedicated page linked between "graphics" and "about".
Certainly worth discussing. Any ideas? I know that LibreOffice can
export to PDF. Also, various LaTeX tools can be used to create PDFs.
Anything else?


Sincerely,
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Tanguy Ortolo
2012-01-17 10:00:55 UTC
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Post by Heiki &quot;Repentinus&quot; Ojasild
Certainly worth discussing. Any ideas? I know that LibreOffice can
export to PDF. Also, various LaTeX tools can be used to create PDFs.
Anything else?
It may be worth noting that GNOME, KDE and probably other free desktops
natively offer to print any document to a PDF (or even PS or SVG) file.
This is typically the kind of feature that people want but that
companies such as Microsoft has commercial interest not to implement. So
they are typically available on free software driven by user demand but
not on proprietary software driven by commercial interest.
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Werner Koch
2012-01-17 11:25:39 UTC
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Post by Tanguy Ortolo
This is typically the kind of feature that people want but that
companies such as Microsoft has commercial interest not to implement. So
AFAIK, Office 2010 has a build-in feature to save documents as PDF.


Shalom-Salam,

Werner
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Jelle Hermsen
2012-01-16 20:50:06 UTC
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Personally, I really like the campaigns singular focus on readers, but to take this train of thought a bit further it is actually quite nice to show people that you can get quite creative with Free Software. Thinking about creating PDFs and desktop publishing, Scribus comes to mind. But what about all the great audio and video software we have. Combining Ardour, Rosegarden, Pure Data, MuseScore and SuperCollider I've got a complete professional-grade audio/music setup, 100% FLOSS.
Maybe we can put a page in the wiki listing ways you can get your creative juices flowing with Free Software?

Cheers,
Jelle
Post by Heiki &quot;Repentinus&quot; Ojasild
Certainly worth discussing. Any ideas? I know that LibreOffice can
export to PDF. Also, various LaTeX tools can be used to create PDFs.
Anything else?
Sincerely,
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Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild
Jelle Hermsen
2012-01-17 11:53:56 UTC
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Unfortunately this doesn't take Mac OS into account. There you can generate a PDF from pretty much any program that supports printing.

Jelle
Post by Tanguy Ortolo
It may be worth noting that GNOME, KDE and probably other free desktops
natively offer to print any document to a PDF (or even PS or SVG) file.
This is typically the kind of feature that people want but that
companies such as Microsoft has commercial interest not to implement. So
they are typically available on free software driven by user demand but
not on proprietary software driven by commercial interest.
--
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Jelle Hermsen
2012-01-16 18:44:16 UTC
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I've spread the word, hopefully it helps. I do seem to have a lot of "friends" out there on the microblogs :)

Cheers,
Jelle
Post by Matthias Kirschner
Can you distribute this a bit, so we are able to fill this gap.
Regards,
Matthias
MJ Ray
2012-01-17 19:51:12 UTC
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Stefano Spinucci <virgo977virgo at gmail.com>
Post by Stefano Spinucci
Looking around, after having found links to *read* a PDF, I tought there
were somewhere a link to free software to *create* a PDF (e.g. Pdfcreator),
but there were no mention to the creation phase.
Yes, printer drivers that produce PDFs are a big help. Common
on GNU and MacOS but http://pdfforge.org/ for Windows: any others?

A Windows user told me that pdfcreator now contains adverts. Anyone
able to verify or rebut that? If it's not true, I'll tell them to
check their download very carefully!

Thanks,
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Stefano Spinucci
2012-01-17 22:31:12 UTC
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Post by MJ Ray
Stefano Spinucci <virgo977virgo at gmail.com>
Post by Stefano Spinucci
Looking around, after having found links to *read* a PDF, I tought there
were somewhere a link to free software to *create* a PDF (e.g. Pdfcreator),
but there were no mention to the creation phase.
Yes, printer drivers that produce PDFs are a big help. Common
on GNU and MacOS but http://pdfforge.org/ for Windows: any others?
A Windows user told me that pdfcreator now contains adverts. Anyone
able to verify or rebut that? If it's not true, I'll tell them to
check their download very carefully!
Thanks,
--
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
I downloaded and used for two days the PDFcreator driver (from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ ) and I found no advertising.

Where they downloaded the driver with advertising ?


Stefano Spinucci
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William from Texas
2012-01-20 17:13:34 UTC
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I don't know about creating, but for editing pdfs there are a couple good
tools: jPDF Tweak (windows and linux, GPLv3); and PDFsam (win, mac and
linux, GPL).

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Stefano Spinucci
Post by Stefano Spinucci
Post by MJ Ray
Stefano Spinucci <virgo977virgo at gmail.com>
Post by Stefano Spinucci
Looking around, after having found links to *read* a PDF, I tought there
were somewhere a link to free software to *create* a PDF (e.g.
Pdfcreator),
Post by MJ Ray
Post by Stefano Spinucci
but there were no mention to the creation phase.
Yes, printer drivers that produce PDFs are a big help. Common
on GNU and MacOS but http://pdfforge.org/ for Windows: any others?
A Windows user told me that pdfcreator now contains adverts. Anyone
able to verify or rebut that? If it's not true, I'll tell them to
check their download very carefully!
Thanks,
--
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit
co-op.
Post by MJ Ray
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
I downloaded and used for two days the PDFcreator driver (from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ ) and I found no advertising.
Where they downloaded the driver with advertising ?
Stefano Spinucci
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Matthias Kirschner
2012-01-21 09:09:03 UTC
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Post by William from Texas
I don't know about creating, but for editing pdfs there are a couple good
tools: jPDF Tweak (windows and linux, GPLv3); and PDFsam (win, mac and
linux, GPL).
pdftk is also very nice for editing.

If you like you can create a page on http://wiki.fsfe.org about that.

Regards,
Matthias
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Matthias Kirschner
2012-01-21 09:47:09 UTC
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Post by Matthias Kirschner
we are just missing 15 signatures for our PDFreaders petition, than we
http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/petition.en.html
Btw. we are now at 2144 individual signatures for the petition!

Regards,
Matthias
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